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levocardiayesterday at 10:43 PM8 repliesview on HN

Crazy how a smart person like this fails to understand the gumbel softmax technique. It does not affect writing quality at all, provably. The very fact that there is generally no "best next token" with 100% certainty is precisely why the trick works (you cannot watermark a response to "respond with the To be or not to be soliloquy from the first folio Hamlet", for precisely this reason).


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wpietriyesterday at 11:37 PM

It seems to me like he started out mad and looked to justify it.

I'm skeptical that anybody generating LLM text is really all that concerned about optimal word choice. Or even particularly good prose. But let's pretend that person exists.

If that person tried, say, an open model and that same model with watermarking applied, I'd be eager to hear their thoughts on the prose quality. Especially if they built an experiment harness and rated a few hundred blinded examples and found a measurable difference.

But getting this upset in advance of any demonstrated problem? It really seems to me like the point isn't the point

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Art9681yesterday at 11:35 PM

If this is true then the probability of the detection tools flagging completely human generated text as AI generated is non-trivial. Let's say I write a completely original piece and the detection tool says there is a 36% probability it was generated with Claude. What then? Now it's up to the person looking at the score to cast a subjective judgement. Maybe to me, anything over 25% is unacceptable. Maybe to someone else, it must cross over the 50% threshold. This is the problem.

Cognitive surrender.

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taplandyesterday at 11:20 PM

Making blog posts about AI that make it apparent that the tech is going whoosh is a choice.

reader9274yesterday at 11:13 PM

"Smart"? Have you read his writings in the last decade? It's all nonsense, which is why I stopped reading circa 2018

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docjayyesterday at 11:26 PM

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RegardDetectoryesterday at 11:19 PM

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conartist6yesterday at 11:40 PM

I couldn't be happier that people are mad about it. To quote Calvin, "nothing helps a bad mood like spreading it around"