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bix6yesterday at 9:18 PM6 repliesview on HN

Anyone have thoughts on proton vs fastmail?


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nsagentyesterday at 9:32 PM

I'm in the process of leaving Proton and moving to Fastmail. I'm now paying for Mullvad and Fastmail, but haven't had a chance to port over a bunch of Simplelogin aliases I have over to Fastmail yet (my fault for not using a custom domain for those, which I've now rectified with Fastmail).

Despite having Proton since 2018, I've really gotten fed up with their service quality — they seem to half-ass most of their services and it's a real pita to use their ecosystem. People have been complaining for ages and nothing changes, so I've decided to take my business elsewhere.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for my decision; that's another annoying aspect about Proton. There's a vocal portion of the userbase that are zealots and really take you to task when they feel you are criticizing Proton in any way.

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thisislife2yesterday at 9:35 PM

Nowhere near the same - there's no JMAP or true IMAP on Proton.

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rationalistyesterday at 10:19 PM

Running a relatively-small opt-in email list, I've had problems with deliverability to Proton.

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bigstrat2003today at 12:25 AM

I haven't used fastmail, but proton works well for me. It's mildly annoying to have to run a local IMAP proxy to use a proper email client for my mail, but it's not a dealbreaker. And with the US having had over a decade track record of violating everyone's digital privacy, I enjoy the fact that proton isn't a US company and is therefore less susceptible to that pressure.

tamimioyesterday at 9:55 PM

I have proton email since they had the .ch domain and two passwords to open your inbox, never used it for anything serious. Fastmail works well because you should never think of emails as private or anonymous, the protocol itself wasn’t designed with that in mind, I won’t even mind to have my whole email publicly shared like a blog because I never used it for anything private.

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spencerflemyesterday at 9:40 PM

I tried both and found Fastmail vastly easier to use.

The encryption part wasn’t that valuable for me and ofc Proton doesn’t encrypt the metadata and unless they’re proton too it’s not E2E so I’m happy sticking with Signal for that sorta stuff and leaving email for talking to businesses.

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