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ranger_dangeryesterday at 10:49 PM4 repliesview on HN

Is it really fair to call these such algorithms "security through obscurity"?

By that logic, wouldn't real symmetric crypto also be considered the same, since it's still just math that similarly swaps the data with other bytes, based on an "obscured" password or key?


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_defyesterday at 10:58 PM

The obscured part was pretending the unlocker needs external information

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leni536today at 6:05 AM

I think it is fair, as all the released CDs are identical. So all the symmetric keys used to encrypt the data are also necessarily identical.

thaumasiotestoday at 9:52 AM

If I ask you to pass on a message from me to someone else, and the message is encrypted using a symmetric key known to me, and to the recipient, but not to you, there's no security-by-obscurity in place.

If I ask you to pass on a message to someone, and the message is encrypted using a symmetric key known only to me, and I expect the recipient to be able to decrypt it because he knows that the key is written on the back of the paper, that's security by obscurity. You're just as able to do the decryption as the intended recipient is; I'm just hoping that you won't realize that.

1970-01-01yesterday at 11:09 PM

I think you right, however they left all the right clues to decrypt it in days. You really don't want to do that.