These threads seem to have become exceedingly vibes-based. Yes, something may now be cheaper or more expensive or whatever, but there is no way to objectively measure quality (except for "trust me bro" benchmarks). So the discourse is people saying that for them, this or that model was better - which is a very low value data point.
> These threads seem to have become exceedingly vibes-based.
If you remember programming language discussions, they are exactly like this.
Software development is still in the leeches and bloodlettings phase.