logoalt Hacker News

999900000999today at 2:29 AM6 repliesview on HN

They also have a much better safety net. Healthcare not being tied to employment is already massive.

I think a flat tax + UBI is the only way to go. The dream of AI should be a society where maybe 10% of people have to work. The nightmare is if the other 90% still need work but can’t find it.


Replies

t-writescodetoday at 2:49 AM

Healthcare being tired to employment and related lacks of safety net are the only reason the most abusive companies (call centers, common retail experiences) have employees.

We would do well to improve safety nets so that everyone benefits.

show 1 reply
Retrictoday at 2:46 AM

Flat tax is only ever flat when you hold down deductions. That’s way harder than it seems.

The corporate veil is extraordinarily valuable to the point where a minimum 10% tax on any money passing through options makes a lot of sense. However, the idea you can pass liability off for free is so pervasive you’d never get something like that to pass. Not because of how good or bad the idea is, but because of how effective voting blocks + donors are.

manlymuppettoday at 2:48 AM

Yes to a stronger welfare state, including untying healthcare and employment, and a UBI (more specifically a negative income tax).

But I think the nightmare you imagine is not realistic. There isn't a lump of labor. We shouldn't make policy decisions based on the assumption that the labor pool will be limited.

show 1 reply
SkiFire13today at 10:51 AM

> flat tax

FYI in some places flat taxes are technically unconstitutional

andsoitistoday at 2:43 AM

> the other 90% still need work but can’t find it.

Where do all jobs come from? Ultimately they’re created by people, so I wouldn’t worry about there being a demand but no supply.

show 1 reply
sublineartoday at 3:19 AM

I don't think I'll ever understand this perspective. To my ears, all the AI hype and profoundly ignorant economic fantasies sound exactly like the bidet hype of the 2010s.

You can't have a revolution based entirely on not having to wipe your ass (except when you still do because bidets are garbage).

Unless you are fresh out of college and working at some lame startup or coding sweatshop, mature white collar work has always been pretty damn close to "not having to work".

show 2 replies