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alphabeta3r56today at 7:35 AM13 repliesview on HN

Why? Noy disputing you but I am childless yet primarily I cannot think why bringing up a kid would be significant or meaningful.

Like once I have a kid, then that kid has to be the most significant part of my life. But before that, why?


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rTX5CMRXIfFGtoday at 12:27 PM

I’m surprised this hasn’t come up yet: Because by being a parent, you become responsible for someone else’s life besides your own, permanently and beyond the transactional or contractual sense of a job or a passion project. It is a life experience unmatched by anything else (though I think that being a teacher or the caretaker of children in an orphanage come close). You get free reign over the shaping of a person who will touch the lives of others, and the good or the bad that becomes of it is the consequence of your own values and way of existence.

Not disputing you either—I once said I will never have children, too—but indeed and as with other life decisions, you should stay childless while you find the meaning of it incomprehensible. It’s not for people who are not ready to stop thinking about themselves.

wjnctoday at 8:22 AM

Because any fault of theirs feels like a fault of yours, but you learn that you cannot fix faults of theirs like you can (try to) fix faults of yours. You learn to become a parent, a teacher, a guide, a kind of friend, in the most deeply connected relationship you’ll ever have. A relationship that exposes you to every fault of yourself, while you feel the deepest love for and connection with your children. A connection that’s not even always reciprocated. Parenting is the true Aristotelian politeia.

(I’m halfway through our main parental fase.)

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nonethewisertoday at 12:23 PM

>Why? Noy disputing you but I am childless yet primarily I cannot think why bringing up a kid would be significant or meaningful.

Its because they are more important than anything else to a parent. You are invested in their outcome more than anything else. I don’t see how this isn’t obvious.

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the_aftoday at 12:39 PM

> I cannot think why bringing up a kid would be significant or meaningful.

I don't think it's something to think or reason about. You feel it (or don't, in some cases). As an atheist, I suppose this is how truly religious people feel about their religion: it brings them joy and meaning. (And much like in some religions, you sometimes feel you're beholden to a demanding, whimsical god!).

DanielHBtoday at 8:55 AM

It is kinda weird, because you feel so much more tired all the time. Yet at the same time you have so much more motivation to do _everything_. It is like I feel 50% more tired, yet 200% more engaged with everything I do. It really makes your life a lot more meaningful.

Before I would waste so much time engaging on video games / internet-browsing / TV-youtube / etc and just not enjoying the time I spent. It felt very meaningless, like why even bother working? I have (had) savings to go take several years of sabbatical if I wanted.

When I actually boot up a video game today I actually enjoy it. And that is all on top of normal stuff you hear about having kids.

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Upvoter33today at 12:20 PM

It’s because of the opportunity to truly learn responsibility to others, instead of selfish responsibility to self.

latentseatoday at 8:58 AM

Ever built something and felt proud of it? Like 'that was cool' or 'that was neat'. It's like a never ending source of that feeling. Most things you do in life just don't last that long, but raising kids lasts a really long time.

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sundarurfriendtoday at 9:11 AM

Because it's evolutionarily favourable - the same reason sex feels good. One is instantaneous pleasure, and the other is sustained doses of feelings of satisfaction, because they optimise for different things; but ultimately you can understand them easily if you think about how core they are to what evolution favours.

JW_00000today at 8:08 AM

Why is anything significant or meaningful? This will always be subjective.

Although there is an evolutionary reason why our brain would make our offspring significant to us.

russelldjimmytoday at 8:00 AM

Agree with the sibling comment. As a new father, nothing - and I mean absolutely nothing - can describe the love, adoration and reverence that parents feel for their children. To be understood, it must be experienced. There is simply no other way.

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thenoblesunfishtoday at 10:42 AM

Once you have kids you quickly discover that you get forced into it. You have to engage. If you don't, they scream. They get in trouble at school. They are unhappy and it breaks your heart. Once you have no choice but to do something, you will find it's better to find meaning in it. Meaning is ultimately something you create for yourself.

modo_mariotoday at 8:15 AM

>But before that, why

You can ask that question about a lot of things whether it's one entrepeneurial baby or their nature conservation effort which reveals it to be somewhat meaningless question.

enjrolastoday at 7:47 AM

As a parent, I get to give you The Most Infuriating Answer: once you have kids, you'll understand.

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