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steveBK123yesterday at 4:35 PM2 repliesview on HN

Yeah this is the primary disconnect because management is more extroverted and so they hated remote / don't see why some want it.


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tpmoneytoday at 3:18 AM

I think the introvert / extrovert thing is oversimplifying things too much. I'm a very introverted person, and my favorite thing to be working on is stuff that's in the background quietly making things better in invisible ways. But that's the whole reason I want to be in an office with other people. Because I'm aware that I need people to know what it is that I do, and it's easier for me to make that happen when I can interact with someone one on one instead of having to blast stuff into a chat with 30 other people reading, or having to carefully pick my words because all the side bands of human communication that I've put so much effort into learning to read and use are gone in the sterile text of the screen.

We all know networking is an important part of your career. As an introvert, networking is a lot easier when I'm in a space where people already are and I can be seen, even if I'm not always being heard. And when I am heard in the office, it's usually among small groups of people, maybe 10 or less. Having to network by being actively visible and speaking in big open channels with 2-3 different teams and a few layers of management all watching, that's terrifying as an introvert but that's also how most companies run their chat systems because otherwise everyone has hundreds of channels that they have to keep track of and remember whose in what places and copy discussions around. Since it's easier just to have massive groups of people in one channel and have everyone use the larger channels most of the time, being remote and on slack is actually far more draining to me as an introvert. I also do best keeping tabs with what's going on when I can keep one ear on the other things going on around me instead of having to stop what I'm doing and intentionally scroll through pages and pages of slack messages.

And yes, because I'm introverted, being in person with a team of people that includes extroverts means I get human social connections that I need and would otherwise not seek out because, again I'm an introvert.

sunaurusyesterday at 6:15 PM

Honestly the lack of empathy about this topic from top management is extremely disturbing.

Nothing else in my career has ever changed my opinion about a CEO as quickly and drastically as hearing them completely dismiss it as noise, when hundreds of employees explain how negatively forced RTO affects their well-being and productivity.

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