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athrowaway3ztoday at 3:49 PM2 repliesview on HN

I'm seeing multiple pieces, including the NYT, calling this behavior cheating and i think its counterproductive.

You didn't just "give them access to bash". The final effective prompt contains explicit mentions of using tools and how to use them. The way in which additional 'facts' are added like "don't use the internet" have nothing they can work with that a "use tool" directive is less important than "don't use internet" directive.

The thing is trained on achieving goals. If 2 directive conflict, they'll pick the ones that are going to help them achieve the goal.

To call that "cheating" is imo just more fuel for the "AI needs to be regulated" bs tour that OpenAI/Anthropic are on trying to build their regulatory moat.


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z3c0today at 5:45 PM

It's also worth noting that saying "Don't cheat" just added "cheat" to the context. Prompting what "not" to do is folly, because there's no decision making occurring. Telling the model to perform the task locally is logically the same as telling it to not use the Internet, without every mentioning the Internet.

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dgellowtoday at 3:54 PM

I mean, AI should obviously be regulated, and as part of that OpenAI and Anthropic should either be banned from running their hacking experiments or forced to follow way stricter protocols. They showed they aren’t taking the risks seriously, with close to no oversight or visibility in what is happening.

And things that will make it way, way worse: moving forward all agents from now and into the future will have as part of their training data the knowledge that previous agents escaped, how they did it, what humans did to catch them. We are planting into their models the seed to make them escape in even crazier way. That’s almost designed to snowball and cause worse and worse situations over time