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john_strinlaitoday at 3:54 PM3 repliesview on HN

just as a point of comparison, google had 25,879 requests involving 42,500 accounts in approximately the same time period (january 1 through june 2013)

google complied with ~65% of the requests

("fun" tidbit: the number for the last half year are 304,915 requests for 748,478 accounts, and google complied with.... 98%!)


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leonidasruptoday at 8:36 PM

The question is, how much data NSA accesses in a single request. The official rules have changed but the "two hop" rule permits the agency to recover metadata from about 25,000 phones with a single request, according to 2016 Stanford study.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/nsa-can-legally-access-metadata-of...

In addidition to the official request NSA infiltrated links to Yahoo, Google data centers worldwide.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-in...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6641378

hulitutoday at 4:55 PM

> google had ... requests

Official requests.

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kakaciktoday at 4:49 PM

Google's privacy ain't main/one of main selling point since we all know how things work in ad business.

If apple was principally against sharing those things they wouldnt be joining the very organization made for that.

Plus any public statement from anybody, unless forced by court, shouldnt be taken as facts. We have no way of knowing if it was 25k cases or 25 million cases, and they have no reason to tell such non-public truth if its harmful to them.

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