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dralleytoday at 5:14 PM4 repliesview on HN

Xorg isn't neglected for "ideological reasons", it's neglected because development is work - and most of the people with knowledge of the problem domain decided they didn't want to work on Xorg anymore, and most of the companies that were paying for it decided they didn't want to pay for it anymore (apart from baseline maintenance, Xwayland and security fixes). And the people who want Xorg support maintained in perpetuity rarely seem interested in maintaining Xorg themselves, at least not properly (see this history of Xlibre introducing bugs and LLM slop).

You are free to spend your own time and resources doing the work, but you don't get to dictate how other people spend theirs.


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rabftoday at 7:42 PM

Modesetting work was done in 2022, but for some reason no one had released a new stable release of the Xserver with this patch included since then. This was one of the reasons Xlibre was created, there was all these improvements to Xorg sitting ready for release but never being released.

BadBadJellyBeantoday at 6:06 PM

Exactly. Just think about how much work it was to move from X to Wayland, how Nvidia didn't want to play ball, how different the architectures are, in a world where ossification is very much a thing. AND STILL there was enough momentum to get all the major players on board. I have never done any X programming but it must have been bad when people would so readily jump ship and put all that work in. Same for systemd.

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noosphrtoday at 7:07 PM

Luckily there is XLibre if the xorg developers can't develop X any more.

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vondurtoday at 6:03 PM

It looks like it's under more active development currently, however I don't see them adding many big new features at this point.