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Aurornistoday at 6:05 AM3 repliesview on HN

I'm kind of fascinated by how many of the same audiences who are highly skeptical of OpenAI and Anthropic are the same people running straight to other country's models.

The most oft-repeated rebuttal I've heard is that they don't care what other government know about them. I guess their threat model hasn't considered any privacy issues, data mining, or leakage risks, just the possibility of the federal government doing something to them?


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nolist_policytoday at 6:46 AM

Everyone trains on your data.

With Chinese providers at least I'm getting a open weight model out of it.

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ddxvtoday at 8:29 AM

In this situation your comment is correct, but in many others the open weight models are hosted on different platforms like DigitalOcean etc that have different privacy policies.

When using (not this 'Stealth mode') open weight models you can choose a hosting provider you trust.

lukewarm707today at 12:51 PM

tdlr, chinese open models are more private and secure.

openai and anthropic plans steal your data. if you opt out they still log it, and send it to moderators to view if it gets flagged.

the other models are very often hosted by western providers with much stronger privacy and tighter contracts that the other subscriptions won't offer. they don't train, don't log and don't send to moderators.