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warkdarriortoday at 11:55 AM5 repliesview on HN

> Our ideal is to scan and upload all the world’s publications before publishers completely block knowledge, and before AI companies scan and destroy all the world’s books and papers.

Isn't this just doing the work for the AI companies??? Then the AI companies can simply download a copy of Anna's Archive.


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throwatdem12311today at 11:56 AM

At least the knowledge will be available to everyone instead of mashed together and regurgitated poorly through proprietary LLMs.

torhtoday at 11:56 AM

At least there will be a copy left for us. The AI companies won't share these books in their original form.

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TaLiTrtoday at 4:56 PM

> Then the AI companies can simply download a copy of Anna's Archive.

And so can everyone else. That's the ideal outcome.

Only Anti-AI types are against this, they probably don't even care about the books, it's just a proxy for trying to stop the "evil AI companies."

voidhorsetoday at 12:02 PM

Yeah, which is completely fine. There's a major difference between:

A. Company destroys a book forever for training. Its scan is locked away forever in company records. In this case:

- This information is locked away in the improvisations of an LLM. It is no longer possible to directly access the information as written by the human being that authored it. This constitutes the loss of literary history, or at least loss of access to that history to the general public.

- The price of the book is no longer distinct from the general price of "inference". It becomes increasingly impossible to pay for specific information, instead you are charged by the meter for general machine inference, which doesn't even give you access to a specific text.

- The provenance of information is totally destroyed. This causes potentially unresolvable problems of authority and citation. If the original source is lost, how are we to know if a random LLM claim about an obscure topic or specific niche text is even true or just hallucinated?

B: Company uses freely available scanned copy of the text:

None of the issues above obtain, since anyone can still access the actual book. Most importantly, this reduces the power companies have to force everyone to continually pay for a derivative form of the book's information in perpetuity in the form of token costs.

I much prefer B.

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