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pj_mukhtoday at 4:49 PM4 repliesview on HN

But also, I dont understand all this hand-wringing. EFF has a clear easy solution [1]: Put all the data behind a Warrant. Problem solved. No trust required.

Wanna look up where a murderer drove? Go get a warrant

Wanna look up where a robbery suspect drove to? Go get a Warrant.

Divorce case hinging on one party's whereabouts on a certain date? Warrant.

Speeding tickets are automatically filed anyways.

[1]: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/08/too-little-too-late-fl...


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Tanoctoday at 5:12 PM

There are plenty of exceptions police can get to bypass warrant requirements. Think for example of stingers and other cell spoofing systems or the license plate readers they have on the front of their cruisers. Even if they do have to get a warrant judges are far more likely to simply grant any warrant request if it has to do with digital surveillance. Carpenter v. United States and Chatrie v. United States have outlined this behaviour, and in the wake of their rulings created the bias towards what are basically automatically approved warrants for such data.

ethintoday at 5:42 PM

The problem is that the fourth amendment at least for the US has been filled with so many exceptions it might as well not exist. And even if an officer does violate your fourth amendment rights, good luck getting them punished for it, because qualified immunity.

morkalorktoday at 5:27 PM

What happens when say FBI gets a warrant for "foreign actors" and sends it to a FISA court in secret?

colechristensentoday at 4:53 PM

The EFF is wrong. The clear solution is NOT COLLECTING THE DATA.

There is no reason or justification for us to live in a surveillance state, "protecting" the data with a warrant doesn't cut it.

Cutting down and destroying mass surveillance equipment is a patriotic action and should be applauded.

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