alt Hacker News> The US is cooked. China is the new economic and industrial super power.
The US economy has outperformed every economy on earth for the last fifteen years.
China is at a permanent disadvantage because the United States and Russia are the largest producers of petroleum and natural gas on earth.
Anyone who thinks China is going to be passing the US anytime soon is uninformed.
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Russia is hanging on by a thread, China is 1/3rd of global manufacturing capacity. The US coasts on dollar and US treasuries demand until it doesn't. The only thing the US builds anymore is grifts.
Russia:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/dispatches/russia-will-sacri...
https://www.euronews.com/2026/08/20/russia-runs-out-of-petro...
China:
The Next China Shock Is Here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49393566 - August 2026
> The biggest economic story in the world right now is China’s growing dominance across advanced manufacturing sector after advanced manufacturing sector — from electric vehicles to batteries to solar panels to software like A.I. and open models, where they’ve become a world leader. What is happening here is very different than what we call the first China Shock, when China became a big exporter of things that were not that important to advanced economies — things that mattered maybe for particular communities, for many jobs, but weren’t the frontier of economic growth. But now it’s different. China is very much at the frontier, and they’re dominating it, and that is going to transform geopolitics. It is going to transform the politics, many say of European countries, where China is pushing them out of manufacturing that has been the absolute cornerstone of their economies. So I think understanding this second shock is about as essential to understanding economics and geopolitics in the coming era as literally anything is.
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/21/europe-china-shock-manufact...
> U.S. tariffs have done little to slow China's export machine. Exports hit a record $3.8 trillion last year and are up 14% through July this year, even as shipments to the U.S. plunged.
https://ember-energy.org/data/china-cleantech-exports-data-e...
> In 2024, China produced around 80% of the world’s solar PV modules and battery cells, and 70% of electric vehicles.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49288393 (citations)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45496507 (citations)
https://www.aspi.org.au/report/aspis-two-decade-critical-tec... (August 2024)
> Now covering 64 critical technologies and crucial fields spanning defence, space, energy, the environment, artificial intelligence (AI), biotechnology, robotics, cyber, computing, advanced materials and key quantum technology areas, the Tech Tracker’s dataset has been expanded and updated from five years of data (previously, 2018–2022) to 21 years of data (2003–2023).
> These new results reveal the stunning shift in research leadership over the past two decades towards large economies in the Indo-Pacific, led by China’s exceptional gains. The US led in 60 of 64 technologies in the five years from 2003 to 2007, but in the most recent five years (2019–2023) is leading in seven. China led in just three of 64 technologies in 2003–2007 but is now the lead country in 57 of 64 technologies in 2019–2023, increasing its lead from our rankings last year (2018–2022), where it was leading in 52 technologies.
China Hunts for Scientific Talent. The U.S. Is Making It Easier. - https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/17/business/china-scientific... | https://archive.today/vaapU - August 17th, 2026
> The US economy has outperformed every economy on earth for the last fifteen years.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."
"How did you go bankrupt?" "Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly." -- Hemingway
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379851 (citations)
> The US economy has outperformed every economy on earth for the last fifteen years
In nominal dollars, not production/output