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pannytoday at 8:18 PM5 repliesview on HN

Think for a moment. What is the difference between giving them a password which wipes the phone and giving them a password which opens a blank phone?

It's the same thing. They punched in a code, they are presented with a wiped phone. Can they prove the guy gave them a distress password and wasn't simply carrying a wiped phone to begin with? No, but they just need to imply that is the reason to charge him with the felony.


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kube-systemtoday at 10:28 PM

> What is the difference between giving them a password which wipes the phone and giving them a password which opens a blank phone?

> It's the same thing. They punched in a code, they are presented with a wiped phone.

No, the behavior between the two is in fact visibly and obviously different.

The regular passcode unlocks the phone. The duress passcode reboots the phone and resets it. I know this because this is literally what previous articles said happened when they entered the passcode in regards to this case.

See for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcgnBjHOK2g

teiferertoday at 8:27 PM

Tyranny does not care about "proof".

It doesn't even care about plausible deniability.

Best you can get away with is lack of suspicion. Have a secondary phone with some standard apps on that you use now and then so theyhave a history and just look like you are just not a technical person and read novels on dead trees instead. A lot of work but likely works.

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cortesofttoday at 9:29 PM

The best technical solution is one code opens to a phone that has things but isn't your actual phone, and then another code that opens to your real phone.

namibjtoday at 8:25 PM

Have you considered "no password set"?

ratelimitstevetoday at 8:59 PM

>What is the difference between giving them a password which wipes the phone and giving them a password which opens a blank phone?

They don't get any indication that there was data there to be deleted, and you don't just factory reset but flash w an image of a clean phone that's been used. It has apps, it has accounts, it looks to the untrained eye (because that's who's looking at it) like a phone that was used normally by someone who has done nothing wrong.