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Kuyawatoday at 4:01 AM6 repliesview on HN

Next time you ask your AI of choice to build an app, please tell them to use plain language without frameworks at all and keep modules to a minimum (ie. node express, ejs and pg, nothing else) and you will see a huuuuge difference


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esikichtoday at 4:47 AM

Yep, I feel like there's less of a reason to use frameworks now that you can just have it bash out only the needed stuff on its own. I've been able to make some really really tiny C tools and I'm absolutely loving it.

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_puktoday at 7:12 AM

What's the stance on Astro?

That still overkill?

I find it decently fast out the box and possible to manage as it grows.

deadbabetoday at 1:56 PM

And just use C.

alightsoultoday at 5:26 AM

I had the same thought a few days ago. Coding agents have rendered frameworks obsolete. Apparently many people disagree though.

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robertoandredtoday at 5:43 AM

> my preferred frameworks can’t possibly be slow and yours can’t possibly be fast

spockztoday at 6:22 AM

Basically you are telling the agent to inline those frameworks. It has access to the frameworks, their functionality, and how they implemented things, combined with countless examples on how to use those frameworks.

If only we had a sufficiently smart™ compiler, it could do the inkling, dead code elimination, and WPO across the application. (Oh we do have that, as long as you don’t write in JavaScript…)