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nchmytoday at 7:58 PM6 repliesview on HN

The real revolution is Deepseek v4 flash and similar models (GPT 5.6 Luna, muse spark 1.2, mimo, etc...) - Genuinely good performance for a tiny fraction of the cost of Fable and even GLM etc...

I think a lot of people would be very content if they never got smarter, and just kept getting even cheaper/faster. Of course, both things continue to happen on a seemingly monthly basis


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geniiumtoday at 9:04 PM

I was using ChatGPT voice during cooking to reflect on variations of a dishes i was preparing for years.

It was so amazing to get advices and reflect that it struck me : I could use this model forever - it’s clever enough to help me tons and do lot of work for me - even if ai would stop evolving I would love it

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matteorasotoday at 8:56 PM

>I think a lot of people would be very content if they never got smarter, and just kept getting even cheaper/faster.

There's a lot of truth to this. I think we're starting to approach the point where increased intelligence has declining marginal returns, such that it might not even be worthwhile to improve models unless it can be done cheaply.

ksh09today at 9:14 PM

I'd be content if I could get the DS4 flash, luna, mimo level intelligence running on MY low-end hardware completely offline and bearable TPS, not otherwise.

lilbigdoottoday at 8:25 PM

If they could be cheap+fast and not try to do too much, that's a good spot for me. I don't use the smarter models as much because of cost and because they're still not good enough to let loose on a lot of problems. For assistance I prefer something that can very quickly spit out a specific piece I can review on the spot and keep going. I let smarter models handle things that I treat as external dependencies and don't care how they're written, but in my core domain I'm still mostly hand coding

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poincareballtoday at 9:11 PM

Evidence actually supports that capabilities are leveling off, and cheaper/faster is not really coming. Just log-linearly more capability at smaller parameter counts as they saturate.

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redox99today at 9:51 PM

Eh. I don't think Luna is good enough. I think that threshold is around Opus / Sol where it can do most of the tasks for me. But I still have many tasks which require either better intelligence or better UI design capabilities.

With how generous subscriptions are, what I actually want is GPT Astra, not cheaper Sol.