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colingauvinyesterday at 4:58 PM1 replyview on HN

I'm saying that it is unclear that without distillation this wouldn't still be happening. There is a massive narrative that no one but OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google can make a model without distilling. But there's basically no evidence of that.


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byzantinegenetoday at 1:50 AM

I think the (non-definitive) evidence is that the chinese models are always just slightly behind the publically released US models, and never ahead.