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klardotshyesterday at 8:16 PM3 repliesview on HN

They can’t vote in most elections (except a few local elections in some places) and aren’t guaranteed entry at the border. They also can’t work a litany of jobs requiring citizenship.

They get a plenty bad enough shake. Let’s grant them the absolute basics of humane treatment and a fair shake at getting citizenship, sheesh.

Other countries get by just fine not having such a huge delta between haves and have nots on citizenship, and their social cohesion is better for it.


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9x39yesterday at 10:41 PM

A litany of jobs? Do you mean a minority of jobs - civil service, some clearance jobs, holding some offices?

The Immigration and Nationality Act makes citizenship discrimination illegal.

>Other countries get by just fine

Which ones are your model for the US?

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carlosjobimtoday at 3:06 AM

> They get a plenty bad enough shake.

Then why are they coming if it's so bad?

> Other countries get by just fine not having such a huge delta between haves and have nots on citizenship, and their social cohesion is better for it.

Outside of the USA and a few other countries, there is no social cohesion at all shared between natives and immigrants/foreigners, just different levels of animosity. Even between different native ethnicities and groups.

unselect5917yesterday at 8:26 PM

I have a better idea. Let them make their countries worth living in. If they don't like it in America they can leave. Because unlike Americans, we don't have another home country to retreat to.

Most countries have MUCH higher standards for immigration and their citizens much better off for it.

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