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mcmcmcyesterday at 8:31 PM3 repliesview on HN

Rights and benefits are two different things, surely you aren’t that dumb. Do you think non-citizens can get Social Security or a US Passport?


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9x39yesterday at 10:37 PM

If they have almost all of the rights and almost all of the benefits but none of the responsibilities, which you ignored, then the point stands.

They benefit from the entire bill of rights (arguably rightly so).

They have better job prospects.

They can purchase homes with federal loans.

They can attend college.

They can invest and own companies.

They can even draw from Social Security.

For now, non-citizens cannot vote openly in congressional elections, but can in minor elections like school boards and municipal votes.

They cannot be drafted to defend a nation. They have to remain employed, but enforcement is questionable and creative solutions exist.

It's a pretty good deal. Oh, and of course dual citizens always have an escape hatch to leave one country and their debts behind should they choose.

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Baloogatoday at 12:43 AM

> Do you think non-citizens can get Social Security or a US Passport?

Non-citizen Nationals can get a US passport. For example, folks born in American Samoa.

sokoloffyesterday at 11:10 PM

> Do you think non-citizens can get Social Security

I know they can (because I checked).

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