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flatlineyesterday at 8:46 PM3 repliesview on HN

This line of thinking diminishes the real struggles autistic people face. Not everyone is autistic, and it's not just a quirky set of traits. I do believe society could be better arranged for people who for whatever reason don't conform to the overculture norms, so we could talk about disability along the axis of how society privileges or disadvantages certain individuals.

The concern is that autism as a rigorous category may be useless, but that doesn't mean that autistic people are suddenly neurotypical -- a term that is more politically than scientifically oriented. People who are not autistic broadly are allistic, to be precise with language. They may be neurodivergent in other ways.


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XCSmeyesterday at 8:55 PM

But different autistic people struggle with different things, in different ways.

What's even the point of having a general diagnosis umbrella, if the symptoms are different?

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matteorasotoday at 1:39 AM

>The concern is that autism as a rigorous category may be useless, but that doesn't mean that autistic people are suddenly neurotypical

IDK. I'm diagnosed as autistic, but I've become a bit less attached to that label in recent years. Like, I do struggle with eye contact, excessive noise, and social situations. I'm not going to say that I'm just a normal guy, but I do think that there's a wide spectrum here that encompasses everybody. I don't buy the idea that autism is some special category of people that are totally unlike neurotypicals. Instead, it's just one side of the spectrum, with neurotypicals on the other end, and an ambiguous group in the middle[0]. I think that once society becomes more accepting of neurodiversity, we're going to stop getting so hung up on labels like "autistic" and "neurotypical" and accept that there's a lot of nuance in the human condition.

[0] In reality, this spectrum would be multi-dimensional, but I'm choosing to describe it as a 1D line for illustrative purposes.

XCSmeyesterday at 8:57 PM

I said that if everyone is neurodivergent, then no one is.

Same with IQ, if everyone is 150IQ, then everyone is still 100IQ, as per the definition, so "normal".

Divergence can only be mentioned when talking a base value to diverge from. What if neurotypicals are actually the neurodivergent ones?

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