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red_admiralyesterday at 8:19 AM10 repliesview on HN

We got into this mess because people wanted Facebook to have age verification, and MZ decided to push the responsibility on to OSes.

The result looks to me like Facebook will ban access from non-approved OSes like Linux. Android will still be allowed, GrapheneOS probably not.


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benttyesterday at 3:12 PM

Can’t think of a better outcome than Meta guaranteeing all parents that Linux is the safest OS for their kids. Steam Machines under every Christmas tree.

narmiouhyesterday at 2:06 PM

I'm not sure it is very bad that facebook won't be accessible from Linux.

vdfsyesterday at 9:27 AM

That would be a big win for linux users

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WD-42yesterday at 3:14 PM

> The result looks to me like Facebook will ban access from non-approved OSes like Linux

Oh no! Anyways…

gonzalohmyesterday at 11:20 AM

How do you ban access to a website based on the OS of the user?

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ajsnigrutinyesterday at 1:58 PM

TBH, OS based parental filters are the optimal solution here, especially if implemented in a proper way.

Kids don't buy phones and computers, parents do. When setting up the account for the first time, the parents could set the account to be an "underage one", all the apps, browsers, etc., would get the USER_IS_UNDERAGE flag and filter content according to that. No need for every site to ask and verify the age, just set the date of birth at the time of purchase, set a parental password (for possible future changes, reselling, etc.) and prohibit formats/wipes/factory resets without a parental password being entered. The clerks in telco stores could even help with the first setup of that.

Same could be easily implemented in linux, via some user flag set by the su/sudo user during the first eg. ubuntu install.

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johnnyanmacyesterday at 8:44 AM

Facebook was the excuse (and there's a no zero chance Meta funded the initiative themselves). The government's worldwide jumped on it so quickly partially becsuse they've been trying to find aan excuse to control the internet for decades. Never dismiss how quick they are to push stuff like this but how slow they are to enact actual positive change for the people.

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cyanydeezyesterday at 1:18 PM

"people" didn't ask for age verification; they asked for Facebook to be shut down because it's a social hazard for children.

dfxm12yesterday at 4:02 PM

We got into this mess long before this, when we decided it was ok to trade freedom at the hint of protecting children, without considering the actual merits of the situation. Look at the horsemen of the infoacalypse.

Then we decided we should punish ourselves rather than expect/require big business make safe products.

DesiLurkertoday at 1:59 AM

will that include other FB services like whatsapp and Insta? Given how unethical FB is it highly likely they will try to ban those services too in hope for stirring discontent.