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IshKebabyesterday at 9:36 AM1 replyview on HN

I have no problem with that as long as it's not the government controlling the age verification. It should be a parent. And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices - the fact that Apple, and especially Google pretty much ignored this feature until now is a big part of why we have these dumb laws in the first place.

Think about it - if every phone you got asked you at first config "are you over 18? If not ask a parent to set up this device" then everyone would know about that capability and "think of the children" would be met with "parents can just click a button"...


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noir_lordyesterday at 10:52 AM

> And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices

    * https://www.apple.com/uk/child-safety/
    * https://families.google/familylink/
    * https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/family-safety
You already have the ability, all parents do, that some (or most) haven't is why this crap gets proposed in the first place and used as a justification for invading everyone's privacy.

If (some) parents actually parented instead of abdicating that role to the state/education system then this tripe would get far less traction - though cynically they'd just switch to the other argument they always trot out.

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