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footayesterday at 5:47 PM2 repliesview on HN

> Ban offline training/pretraining. Models must train from scratch after submission Previously this was considered impossible so rule. My model shows this is possible Guarantees no synthetic data can be used It makes the comparison fair across differet models. Otherwise some models like LLMs can benchmaxx ARC by using ungodly amounts of offline training. (Since the benchmark has been around a long time, many ARC-like datasets have been created)

I'm not an ML researcher, so YMMV, but... how could a model learn to answer these ARC-AGI questions without training beforehand?


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evilmathkidyesterday at 7:20 PM

train from scratch only during the 12 hours allowed on Kaggle

Other competitions have implemented things like this before. Eg: OpenAI's Parameter Golf and Keller Jordan's Modded NanoGPT Speedrun

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nicman23yesterday at 6:38 PM

how would you as a human know the answer to the arc-agi questions?

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