logoalt Hacker News

Forgeties79today at 12:23 AM7 repliesview on HN

Normally I'd agree but at this point it's basically "Firefox is mismanaged, updoots to the left my 1337zors" behavior. It's basically a meme. It's always at the top of every single firefox thread no matter what is being posted. Yes they make mistakes. Yes they can be frustrating. But it is still so much better than using a chromium browser, and that must be acknowledged.

People whine about the features every time. Guess what? I like sync. I like having a dedicated container for the rare times I must log in to google. I like some of these "useless" things they "tack on." Not every change must be met with "nobody asked for it." I actually don't want a super basic, boring browser - that's what I have mullvad browser for! FF is my daily driver, sometimes they roll out stuff I legitimately want and expect.


Replies

autoexectoday at 12:52 AM

> But it is still so much better than using a chromium browser, and that must be acknowledged.

As much as Perfect shouldn't be the enemy of Good, the existence of Worse shouldn't make anyone stop demanding Better.

Generally, while I know it can take time away from working on other things, I don't mind if firefox adds optional features like Sync, FlyWeb, Pocket, or Hello as long as they can be easily and permanently disabled.

Ideally they wouldn't be installed by default and users would be informed about what the features are, told what the risks of installing/using them are, and given an option to enable them or not first.

show 1 reply
mattmcaltoday at 1:07 AM

Who complains about sync thought? What tilts me is Pocket, AI features, integrated ads, and a plethora of other random acquisitions and side projects that constitute outsized expenses yet do zilch to drive adoption.

I also used to be a Thunderbird lover, but I was forced to ditch it due to crippling freezes, crashes, and slowdown when you have a lot of emails. Mozilla just feels like an awful steward of their projects at times.

EDIT: I also subscribed to Mozilla VPN for almost two years and was forced to ditch that too, due to... solvable technical issues, again. Mullvad was just a greatly superior product for the same price. I still use Firefox for all my browsing on desktop and Android at least.

show 1 reply
Seattle3503today at 1:11 AM

> But it is still so much better than using a chromium browser, and that must be acknowledged.

Often it goes unacknowledged, leaving the reader to read the criticism as a tacit endorsement of switching off of Firefox to something else.

show 1 reply
wtallistoday at 12:34 AM

Sync and container tabs aren't on the list of features I recall seeing people complain about.

D13Fdtoday at 12:54 AM

I’m fine with Firefox and run it as my main browser on all my devices. But their corporate behavior means I’ll never give them my money again.

codexontoday at 1:59 AM

I don't have any issues with the extra features they try to tack on. I just disable them.

I just wish they would fix the memory leaks and stuttering.

p-e-wtoday at 12:40 AM

> It's always at the top of every single firefox thread no matter what is being posted.

That’s because this mismanagement has been going on for nearly 10 years now, nothing is being done to address it, and if anything, it seems to be getting progressively worse.