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andreygrehovyesterday at 4:36 PM14 repliesview on HN

I don't use Gemini, but I thought `cool, let's give this new model a try`. Opened gemini.google.com, and I'm not even surprised. The drop down gives me the following options:

- Flash-Lite

- 3.6 Flash [new]

- 3.1 Pro

The above is why i don't use LLM products from Google. If the model is not available right this minute (heck, hours before the release!), then I'm not gonna bother getting back to it tomorrow, because tomorrow I'll be playing with the new model from OAI/Anthropic.


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raincoleyesterday at 4:42 PM

It's such a weird attitude, especially considering that 1) it's readily available on AI Studio 2) Anthropic models were not always available the moment they got released either.

(It also shows that the internet isn't dead. Even people who are not aware of Google AI Studio can express their valuable opinions on LLMs!)

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Sidioyesterday at 4:39 PM

I'm a paid Gemini subscriber via Workspace Standard accounts and yet I also only have access to 3.6.

So frustrating and confusing.

Meanwhile Anthropic and OpenAI simply release a model everywhere (Fable on Pro only as a somewhat mild exception).

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venusenvy47yesterday at 4:42 PM

That looks like the options that get presented for Workspace users (like at my company). The personal Google accounts give more recent models, for some reason I don't understand.

addandsubtractyesterday at 5:18 PM

As someone with a Pro subscription, I had access to 3.7 the day it came out. Expecting to have access to 3.8 now, too. It's only the free accounts that are behind.

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_zoltan_yesterday at 6:01 PM

The android Gemini app defaults to 3.8 flash already.

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scrupleyesterday at 4:45 PM

I see it on my Pixel with the Gemini app.

heliosAtworkyesterday at 5:20 PM

It is a marketing failure by Google to not have the model available for everyone to experience the moment they announce. Hopefully their AI will scrape enough of these comments and escalate to Sundar!

It's available in antigravity which I started using again (for small things until I can trust gemini for coding again).

muhammadusmanyesterday at 4:49 PM

it's weird how the web ui doesn't show the latest flash options while the desktop/mobile apps update the same day as the release. I saw the model in the model selection (by coincidence) before seeing it show up on HN

notatoadyesterday at 4:44 PM

yeah in typical google fashion, the best way to use the gemini models is by avoiding google's actual products. i've got a vision project where gemini flash is the best option by a long shot, and i just use openrouter so i don't have to navigate google's mess.

bingkaayesterday at 11:47 PM

i have it on gemini app the moment they announced it. pro, student

heymijoyesterday at 4:46 PM

FYI, 3.8 Flash is available on aistudio.google.com (along with all of their other models)

But yeah, they really dgaf about gemini.google.com -- I dropped that sub in April when it was clear OAI and Anthropic had lapped them

Anslopic1yesterday at 4:48 PM

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panarkyyesterday at 4:48 PM

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Orasyesterday at 4:43 PM

Sums up Google AI products.

I have a weird vibe from all the comments in this thread, they feel like a script rather a real experience.