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MostlyStableyesterday at 5:13 PM2 repliesview on HN

The way I read the comment (admittedly putting words in their mouth), is that there are different ways of "complaining". I am someone who is actually quite sympathetic to Graphene's project and have considered getting one of their Motorola supported phones when they come out. But every time I encounter their writing, they come off as unnecessarily abrasive. They could be making the same points with a lot less potential bridge burning.

They are not neutrally pointing out places where their preferred priorities aren't being met (which would be reasonable), but they are speaking (forgive me the hyperbole) like religious zealots. I don't blame someone who doesn't share their particular viewpoint with being hesitant to work with someone like that.

As a consumer, I don't particularly care. I'm not going to make my decision based on their comms style. But a developer who actually has to work with them? Yeah I could imagine it mattering.


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fphyesterday at 6:50 PM

Agreed. They clearly know their shit and they are stunningly great engineers, but Graphene OS would be much more loved and respected if they had a PR person to take care of online communications.

matheusmoreirayesterday at 5:55 PM

The "religious zealots" have their own motherfucking Cellebrite column. That means they are right.

They can be abrasive all they want. People who are wrong still need to sit down and listen instead of spitefully "burning bridges".

And that's assuming they're actually guilty of this "abrasiveness" that people accuse them of. I don't actually think that's true. I think their comments are extremely informative and filled to the brim with valuable technical information. I've spent quite some time reading strcat's comments here and it's actually changed my viewpoints on some security matters. For example, I'm no longer as obsessed with knowing what's inside firmware as I used to be, it's better to minimize and isolate such black boxes so they can do no harm. I started valuing IOMMU support and grouping in PC motherboards.

If there's any "abrasiveness" in their posts, it's probably just an undercurrent of frustration with a world that simply refuses to understand or cooperate. A feeling I can't help but have enormous sympathy for.

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