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DonaldFiskyesterday at 11:50 AM2 repliesview on HN

I've already answered this. There's no way someone deaf from birth could know what it's like to hear sounds, by looking at the pixels in a sound recording they know the format of, and if you don't believe me you can ask them. Or by looking at a speech spectrogram (which, with practice, are more easily readable).

Or you can ask yourself what ultraviolet looks like, or what it's like to sense a magnetic field. Lots of animals can do these, and would know what it's like, but people can't.


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fc417fc802yesterday at 12:10 PM

No, you have not answered. I asked you what you believe the difference is between the two phenomena in concrete terms. What you've done is beg the question.

> There's no way someone deaf from birth could know what it's like to hear sounds, by looking at the pixels in a sound recording they know the format of

On what basis could you possibly make this claim? What does it mean to hear? You're taking in information and decoding it, right? So what magical pixie dust could your eardrum possibly be applying that specially privileges that particular mode of input?

How is an LLM "reading" pixel data fundamentally different from your eyes transforming it into an analog signal?

Please be specific about the mechanism.

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jstanleyyesterday at 2:26 PM

But you can't experience the qualia of tokens coming in and LLMs can.