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BeetleByesterday at 7:52 PM1 replyview on HN

> But it doesn't, really. Because you get diluted.

At this day and age, if you don't understand dilution before you join, it's entirely on you.

This isn't a new concept - it was the case decades ago. Even when I left school over 15 years ago, the standard advice when trying to get a job with a startup was "Get a good salary and value the equity at zero."

And class A vs class B isn't even a rich vs everyone else thing. I have class A shares in an LLC, where even the (richer) founders are class B. The operating agreement is that we class A folks are "guaranteed" a fixed rate of return on our investment, and the class B folks don't get anything unless we get at least that rate of return. This is very normal in that industry.


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palatayesterday at 10:12 PM

> At this day and age, if you don't understand dilution before you join, it's entirely on you.

I don't know what to tell you. Young graduates get an offer to work at a startup, nobody tells them how it works. They are just excited, as I was. And they don't think about "what happens if the startup is successful" because they do know it probably won't be.

And when the startup is successful (happened to me) is when they realise that they got scammed. But all they can do is see their founders become rich and tell everyone why THEY deserve it because it was THEIR idea and THEY are the best.

> the standard advice when trying to get a job with a startup was "Get a good salary and value the equity at zero."

That does not say AT ALL that the founder gets rich when you get nothing. It says "be careful, most startups fail, so make sure you get a salary". Usually that salary is subpar.