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phlakatonyesterday at 11:58 PM3 repliesview on HN

If it allows you to distinguish readily between human intelligence and computer intelligence, it seems quite relevant to the question of whether computers have achieved something akin to human intelligence.

It may not be useful for anything else, but at least it can say that.


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hackinthebochstoday at 3:26 AM

But it's not relevant as a metric to gauge distance to human intelligence. Humans see individual letters, LLMs do not. If I asked you the relative activation of the cones in your retina as I showed you some solid color image, you couldn't do it. You simply do not have cognitive access to that information. But that says nothing about your intelligence.

A more accurate test would be to give it a list of words (or anything represented as a single token) and ask it how many times that token appeared. I'm sure they have no trouble at that task.

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gjm11today at 2:17 AM

I am not enthusiastic about criteria for human-like intelligence that imply that dyslexic people don't have human-like intelligence.

[EDITED to add:] I actually don't know whether dyslexic people find it difficult to count letters in words, if they have them already written down by someone else. I suspect they find it harder than people who aren't dyslexic. But perhaps "blind people whose spelling is poor" would have been better; I would not want to deny them human-like intelligence either.

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slideherotoday at 12:04 AM

which just brings us back to the whole birds vs planes thing.

turns out that flapping wings is not the right way to unlock human flight.

computers could count the Rs in strawberry since vacuum tubes. that measure is irrelevant.

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