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Der_Einzigeyesterday at 4:06 PM7 repliesview on HN

Most open source fans are also hostile to copyrights existence and are openly IP abolitionists. As such, they collectively respond with "good."

This is actual communism, and the fact that Bernie Sanders and every other member of the DSA isn't actively fighting for open source and is often fighting against all AI shows how fake their purported movements are and have always been.


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tsimionescuyesterday at 4:35 PM

If IP were entirely abolished tomorrow with no other change to our economic system, you would still not have universal Healthcare (maybe drug prices would be lower, though), Elon Musk could still donate however much he wants to get his preferred politicians elected, fossil fuels would still be used in amounts that destroy the world, etc. Very importantly, AI would still be used to try to manipulate and control the public.

The fact they prioritize other fights more than OSS, and have a rather dim view of AI, is hardly proof that they are fake.

roarcheryesterday at 4:34 PM

> Most open source fans are also hostile to copyrights existence and are openly IP abolitionists.

Open source licenses are only enforceable because of copyright law. How are you going to enforce GPL3 when you have no legal authority to say what people are allowed to do with your code?

add-sub-mul-divyesterday at 4:22 PM

There's no reason that one's feelings about AI can't supersede their feelings about open source. We all live with a complex tapestry of values.

fcarraldoyesterday at 4:13 PM

While I don’t disagree that they should be fighting for open source AI, Sanders is hardly “fighting against all AI”.

https://jacobin.com/2026/07/ai-nationalization-sanders-liber...

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2948154yesterday at 4:15 PM

Who cares about power user fans? They don't own the copyright.

Open source authors have always been protective of their copyright. There are numerous examples when drivers have been copied between BSD/Linux (I forget which direction) which led to huge flame wars.

The whole point of the GPL is that it uses copyright and copyright assignment to the FSF to protect what it calls software freedom.

BSD authors are very upset if the attribution clause isn't observed. And so on.

It is communism to exploit poor open source authors? I have to read Marx again.

graemepyesterday at 5:03 PM

Wanting to replace monopolies with competitive markets is the strangest definition of "actual communism" I have ever heard.

Supermanchoyesterday at 4:32 PM

Anti-capitalism does not automatically qualify as communism. Notably, if IP were to be abolished, it doesn't belong to anyone. The expectation that open anything includes some sort of DRM-like content gating is counterproductive.