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calebkaiseryesterday at 6:11 PM3 repliesview on HN

I support and use open models as much as possible, but I'm not totally convinced that OAI or Anthropic have no moat, even as open models catch up to the frontier. Serving and inference are still hard problems when you're talking about a 2 trillion parameter model. Fine-tuning, if that remains a realistic need for businesses, is also a difficult infra problem at that scale. In the most bearish case, where there is no competitive advantage to using their models, big labs still have an advantage in this area.

Maybe there is some threshold where the price/quality math for your standard business tips in favor of smaller models and self-hosting the entire stack. I'd certainly love that.


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jopsenyesterday at 6:19 PM

Also people are people and they will get emotionally attached to claude :)

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nutjob2yesterday at 7:15 PM

OK, but somehow there won't be companies who will sell you appropriate hardware and a turnkey system to serve inference? Or companies that will help you fine tune popular models?

It's not about money, it's about control. Companies have lots of money and want control over their key technology.

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ijidakyesterday at 6:21 PM

True.

The problem is serving is a skill readily mastered by the hyperscalers. That's their MO.

All they need is weights to serve. And the open models provide that.

OpenAI is relatively well placed in that they have inference chips they've designed and they own compute.