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0xDEAFBEADtoday at 1:58 AM6 repliesview on HN

Here's a map which attempts to estimate when slavery was abolished across various parts of the world:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/zsnr8q/year_of_abo...

The US wasn't much of an outlier.

As a general rule, anyone who tries to use slavery as a skeleton key to understand US politics is most likely an ideologue with an agenda. Sane people don't propose struggle sessions for events which happened 100+ years ago when everyone involved is long dead. You wouldn't point to a gigantic statue of Genghis Khan to explain what's wrong with modern Mongolia.

I don't think this is a slavery thing. Trump just sucks.


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Chermska1today at 6:05 AM

The poster you responded to did not mention slavery, they mentioned the confederacy, which held a variety of views, many of which still inform the politics of many Americans today. Acknowledging this reality seems reasonable.

Your replies indicate your disdain for appeals to the history of American slavery in political discussions, yet you were the one who brought it into the conversation, diverting the thread by initially straw-manning the parents view.

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TheOtherHobbestoday at 2:43 AM

Some people believe they have a right to land based on claims from millennia ago.

I suppose you could question their sanity, but the point stands - history has a short memory, and a few generations are nothing.

Especially when the after-effects of slavery, including segregation, disenfranchisement through gerrymandering and for-profit imprisonment, and other forms of continuing violence, are still live issues today.

antonvstoday at 5:09 AM

As a general rule, someone trying to use a simple single numerical measure as a skeleton key to understand politics across nations is an ideologue with an agenda.

As for the Genghis Khan comparison, I may have made an error. We may just be dealing with severe cognitive limitations here.

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ModernMechtoday at 2:05 AM

Genghis Khan died 800 years ago. The last American to have born into slavery died in the ~1970s~ 1960s.

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tstrimpletoday at 2:46 AM

Sounds like you’re completely ignorant to US history post civil war. You seem to know nothing about the daughters of the confederacy. Know nothing about segregation and Jim Crow. You have no idea that conservatives fight to this day to maintain monuments to literal traitors to the country. Or that they still routinely fly the flag of traitors to the country. Or more likely you do know about all of that and agree with it and just want to white wash conservative history in the US.

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dataflowtoday at 2:21 AM

You don't seem to believe that something like generational wealth makes much of a difference?

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