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GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard

295 pointsby Cider9986yesterday at 8:24 PM212 commentsview on HN

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yellowappletoday at 5:46 AM

> In the longer term, we plan to add support for RCS including support for the standard end-to-end encryption (E2EE) via Messaging Layer Security (MLS). Currently, RCS including E2EE is available on GrapheneOS via Google Messages. We want to avoid the need to use Google Messages for RCS eventually.

Hell yeah. Google Messages has worked reasonably well for RCS so far (after a long and frustrating period where it didn't on T-Mobile), but having a non-Google option will be huge.

teekerttoday at 7:58 AM

They are really creating a lot of buzz recently. I love it, I hope they succeed beyond just us geeks here. It is imho imperative for a fair and balanced technological society that it retains the means for truly private and secure communications.

My devices help me think, and my thoughts are my own. That is a fundamental condition of human-hood. Sure we can change that, if that's what we want, but do we? If we do, do we make it a conscious choice per person? Or do we let big tech/corporatocracy dictate what it is to be human?

lucb1eyesterday at 10:33 PM

Ctrl+f clipboard, no results. What does "Secure Clipboard" in the title refer to?

The release seems to be only the SMS/RCS app, rest is future:

> We're also going to be overhauling or fully replacing the rest of the AOSP apps in the near future. AOSP Gallery is incredibly outdated and is being entirely replaced. AOSP Keyboard may be similar. We recently hired a bunch of new people and will be hiring more so our progress will be accelerating.

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goda90yesterday at 9:25 PM

I believe this is the planned gallery app. I've already been using it: https://github.com/IacobIonut01/ReFra

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ravenstineyesterday at 10:48 PM

I hope they replace the AOSP keyboard with FUTO keyboard. I'm mostly fine with the other stock apps, but that keyboard was the one thing I absolutely had to end up replacing due to its jenky behavior.

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kotaKatyesterday at 9:07 PM

"RCS isn't an open platform in practice. It isn't even as open as SMS/MMS. It heavily depends on proprietary Google and carrier infrastructure in practice. We can start by replicating Google's approach and then we can work on only using carrier services for carriers where it's actually supported."

Except... what carriers still remain using their own RCS carrier services and haven't been pressured by Google to adopt Jive?

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andrepdyesterday at 9:30 PM

There are excellent FOSS gallery apps already, like the Fossify suite. Why not use them I wonder?

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drnick1yesterday at 10:42 PM

Certainly, with Opus 5 and GPT-6, modernizing or even completely rewriting self-contained, non-critical tools seems like a Friday afternoon job now. I wonder however how important this is, in the grand scheme of things. I use GrapheneOS and the bundled messaging app is serviceable. It isn't pretty, but it gets the job done.

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exceptioneyesterday at 9:07 PM

  > RCS isn't an open platform in practice. It isn't even as open as SMS/MMS. It heavily depends on proprietary Google and carrier infrastructure in practice. We can start by replicating Google's approach and then we can work on only using carrier services for carriers where it's actually supported.
What is the point of RCS though? It seems to be strictly inferior to Signal. It seems a Google product meant to serve Google. I wouldn't hate it if GrapheneOS would totally ignore RCS. I fail to see any value in it, but maybe I am lacking information(?)
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cwillutoday at 1:02 AM

“We'll be making a new release later today with a completely overhauled user interface written in ‹whatever›” is something developers love, and users fear.

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water-drummertoday at 3:42 AM

Funny reading those anti-LLM comments, lol

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IshKebabyesterday at 9:05 PM

Very good idea! Google abandoned these long ago.

I don't really get why so many Americans want RCS to succeed though. Do you guys not remember when carriers charged 10p/text? Why on earth would you want to give any power at all back to those people?

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thinkp26yesterday at 9:07 PM

I'm happy todays update shipped auto call recording.

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pizzaioloyesterday at 11:02 PM

Graphene is clearly bullish on Android, but I have no idea why. The writing is on the wall, Google is slowly asphyxiating AOSP.

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