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gruezyesterday at 10:11 PM2 repliesview on HN

>There are plenty of people demonstrating that Anubis reduces bot traffic.

"Anubis reduces bot traffic" and "[the proof of work] is not stopping anyone" isn't contradictory, especially if anubis isn't being benchmarked against non-POW alternatives like IP/ASN bans, or tls fingerprinting.


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wiredfooltoday at 1:07 PM

IP blocks don't work, because they're using proxy networks so that you see an ip address 1 or 2 times within 10 minutes. They have effectively infinite ip addresses. (actually, looking at my data from today, I think this relationship holds over ~3 hours, where we're seeing ip address cardinality at about 1/2 of the hits.)

  * Sometimes there's a pattern to the country. Oftentimes, not. 
  * User-agent, rotated between common, valid, current web browsers.
  * Other headers, sec-*, accept, etc, generally valid and rotating. 
  * Bots will load the site to saturation in a denial of wallet attack.
The only thing that's specific is:

  * urls have a pattern.
  * it's obviously invalid traffic. 
(non-bot traffic on my sites does not go from 0 to 200r/sec on the search interface in seconds. It does not go away that fast either)
Jtariiiiiyesterday at 10:14 PM

"it's not stopping anyone" and "it is stopping some people" are mutually exclusive statements.

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