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inferniacyesterday at 10:50 PM4 repliesview on HN

>voting for policy positions that obviously work against those voters' own interests

Delusions of grandeur / superiority complex much? Have you considered a posibility, that these voters just dont agree with your idea of what their best interests are?

>fictional terrorist organization called "antifa."

An organization so fictional, that just a few months back multiple members were convicted in a terrorist attack

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyedgnyn4mo

Antifa defenders just hide behind the fact that the movement is decentralized and leaderless by design, but that doesn't make it fictional.

They are obviously a terrorist organization and it is good to go after their financing and communication channels.


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selfhoster1312today at 9:10 AM

> Antifa defenders just hide behind the fact that the movement is decentralized and leaderless by design

Calling a movement an organization is a fiction, unless you live in an alternate reality. Should i consider you part of an organization because you tweeted a certain hashtag once? Are you the member of a band because you whistled a song on the subway? Are you in the military because you watched a Rambo movie when you were a teen?

Reason077today at 12:48 AM

> ” They are obviously a terrorist organization”

“Organization” is a stretch. Criminals? Sure. Violent thugs? Maybe.

The “terrorist” word, however, has been stretched and distorted for political ends. It seems like any crime motivated by political or religious ideology is now “terrorism”, and thus subject to much harsher punishment than those same crimes would normally receive.

By this definition, the Jan 6 rioters were terrorists - yet they received pardons.

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Dylan16807yesterday at 11:00 PM

Any was there any proof of them being members of anything beyond that group of about ten people? That article sure doesn't claim it.

If a movement has no leaders at all then it's not an organization.

majormajoryesterday at 11:41 PM

For a group who's so bloody-minded about "words have meanings" about certain things, this whole "movement and affiliation and organization are all obviously exactly the same thing" claim is blatantly ridiculous.

When Republicans in the US communicate and sometimes coordinate with totalitarian international leaders, does it mean we get to label the whole thing as a single "international totalitarian organization"?