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HybridStatAnim8today at 2:15 AM1 replyview on HN

I assume many people would use it due to SMS concerns and difficulty having people move to other platforms. I would personally use it as a fallback to Signal since my current fallback is SMS, which I dont like.

If the protocol is properly e2ee, it does not matter who backs it or hosts it. GrapheneOS would be in control of the client which is what matters in an e2ee system.


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microtonaltoday at 9:09 AM

GrapheneOS would be in control of the client which is what matters in an e2ee system.

Not really... You will be communicating with other people who don't use GrapheneOS and if you are e.g. communicating with iPhone users who have iCloud backups enabled (most iPhone users) and did not opt in to ADP (against most iPhone users), the chats are only encrypted at-rest in the iCloud backups and are accessible by Apple and law enforcement.

Signal is way better because it opts out iCloud backups (and Android backups) in favor of truly end-to-end encrypted backups.