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tristanjtoday at 6:14 AM1 replyview on HN

I think OpenAI desperately wants to make a blanket denial that they didn't look at or train on Buckmaster and Alpöge's chat transcripts, but know they cannot, because the data is anonymized.

The fact they can't make a blanket denial triggers everyone's bullshit detectors, and they're getting eviscerated over it.


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JumpCrisscrosstoday at 10:12 AM

> fact they can't

Again, see the Apple lawsuit. OpenAI has never been constrained by facts in what it can and can’t say.

To the extent anything is setting off my bullshit detector, it’s in the idea that this time is different (Moreover, the idea that we should assume this divergence without evidence.)

OpenAI doesn’t have the benefit of doubt. They shouldn’t for anyone who’s honest and reasonable. That doesn’t mean they’re automatically at fault. But when the twentieth person comes forward and says a pattern is continuing, I’m giving them the preliminary benefit of doubt. It’s a bit extreme to conclude based on that. But it’s far more baseless to swing to the other side and claim we need to clear the table for a serial offender.