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iPhone Duo

1258 pointsby thecosmicfrogyesterday at 6:15 PM2206 commentsview on HN

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neomyesterday at 6:22 PM

Think I'll just wait for the rumored iPhone Air 2. iPhone Air is for sure the best phone I've ever owned, the battery life doesn't bother me but the camera isn't ideal at all. Duo looks cool but I'm not sure I need a device that will encourage me to "play" on my phone more than I already shouldn't.

fieldnoteyesterday at 11:57 PM

There is a reason that foldable is not taking off. The final test is this.

jribtoday at 9:15 AM

can i just have half this phone?

vivzkestreltoday at 4:01 AM

- where do i get a 5 inch iphone?

- no seriously i dont want a 6 inch / 6.5 inch screen, any recommendations?

- ok how about a 5 inch anyphone?

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butterisgoodyesterday at 11:56 PM

IFF I can replace some of what I almost never use my iPad for with this, it _might_ be worth that price tag.

I'm on the fence! I do like a bigger but not too big screen for movies on planes etc.

olalondeyesterday at 8:33 PM

Looks quite similar to the Huawei Pura X Max[0]. Funny how the cycle inverted.

[0] https://consumer.huawei.com/cn/phones/pura-x-max/

vonStackelbergyesterday at 7:21 PM

I have not much to say about the device, probably great. But the image selection for showcasing the camera improvements seems odd. As a non US person, i have the impression it tries to tailor its branding the most cliche type of peer groups. The result seems quite ridiculous

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jonathanlbyesterday at 7:26 PM

My hope is that Apple getting in on this design will influence eBook makers to jump on the bandwagon.

kumarvvrtoday at 5:54 AM

One could get an iPhone 18 and an iPad Air for the same cost as this.

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yesfitzyesterday at 6:12 PM

iPhone Duo is more like iPad Pocket. Touch ID + Apple Pencil Support coming later this year. It looks physically uncomfortable to hold.

I was really hoping they were going to slap an Apple Watch screen on the back of an iPhone Air and fold that in half.

I'll be waiting for an iPhone Duo Mini, I guess.

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fsutstoday at 10:33 AM

RIP iPad mini?

siddthesquidyesterday at 7:47 PM

I'm a bit biased here, but I feel like the more form factors we introduce, the worse apps are going to get as developers now have to account for it (and they won't, eg YouTube on ipad). Do people actually like foldable phones enough?

achowyesterday at 6:26 PM

I cannot believe that the central crease could disappear altogether!

Suspiciously could not see reviews of it yet - usually bloggers like mkbhd get their hands on early, and they release the reviews moment the embargo is off, usually when live event is over. This time nothing.

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t1234syesterday at 6:21 PM

A terminal app would be cool where the bottom half is a decent keyboard with arrow/pg keys

fedeb95today at 9:22 AM

I remember clearly Apple fans making fun of Samsung when they did their foldable phone.

moooo99yesterday at 9:21 PM

I have never understood the appeal of foldables, but I guess with Apple launching them now, they're probably going to see significantly improved software support within the next few years

ClimaxGravelyyesterday at 6:30 PM

I guess it's not cool but if i had a fold phone I'd much prefer it be like the nintendo DS with 2 separate screens (taking up the whole space though). If they can make it foldable they should be able to have 2 screens without a bezel

chrismsimpsontoday at 1:25 AM

Something, something.. rolling in his grave..

Pavilion2095today at 6:17 AM

Spoiler alert: Silo

baxuztoday at 10:41 AM

I'd like to have one of these devices once the prices get a bit more normal. I remember paying 400€ for an iPhone 4 when it came out, a flagship phone at the time by all metrics. Adjusted for inflation, that's about 600€.

Flagship prices have now reached the 1000€ mark, with marginal upgrades, and in many cases actual downgrades.

There is no world in which I can justify paying 2x-4x the flagship price for a device fulfilling a fundamentally similar purpose.

For a different comparison, a 14" MacBook Pro costs that much.

deepfriedchokesyesterday at 9:31 PM

This is really nice for people who read books and want to ditch carrying around a mini tablet or e-reader, I just wish it had the camera array of the iPhone Pros.

low_tech_punkyesterday at 6:13 PM

This made history because Apple never copied Microsoft before. https://news.microsoft.com/surfaceduo/

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wayeqyesterday at 9:33 PM

Can I pay $1,000 and just take one of the smaller halves?

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meetpateltechyesterday at 6:54 PM

Anyone noticed the headline has two "Hello"s for a phone that folds in two? John Ternus' first tweet was just "hello" and he opened the event the same way.

This has to be on purpose.

2001zhaozhaoyesterday at 9:02 PM

The issue with this form factor is that the on-screen keyboard will take up half the screen on landscape with the phone open.

Typing in portrait should be very nice, however.

superjanyesterday at 8:17 PM

The phone shows a date of April 1 in several screenshots. I would guess that is to pretend that the images were for an april fools joke in case they leaked?

emacdonayesterday at 7:41 PM

I used to be one of those people that would countdown the hours to Apple's launch events and tune in for the live stream. I was never someone who updated my iPhone every year, but I _did_ update my iPhone every two years.

Now, I can't even remember what version iPhone I have. I just remember that I bought it after my last one stopped working (after maybe 5 or 6 years of having it). I won't lie: part of the reason is that I'm just getting older and care less about these things.

But a bigger part is that new tech just isn't fun anymore...

I _hate_ using my current iPhone for surfing the web... because I can't run the full suite of ad-blocking software that I run on my computer (Firefox + uBlock, sponsor block; Little Snitch with tons of block lists). I hate that all that ad-blocking software is necessary... but that's a totally different rant.

I _hate_ that I'm being asked to spend $2000 on a device that will, by default, surveil me 24x7. I can spend HOURS trying to disable every feature designed to track me... and still not be certain that somewhere in the TOS that I've still given permission for them to vacuum up SOME piece of information about me.

And I _hate_ that Apple is now an ad company.

And yes, I acknowledge that with respect to privacy, Apple is STILL the less bad choice (compared to Android).

And yes, I acknowledge that there are other options. In fact, when this iPhone dies, I plan on getting a Pixel and putting GrapheneOS on it.

I guess what I'm saying is... I hope that there are more people like me out there... who are sick of paying thousands of dollars for devices that, instead of serving me, serve those who want to collect my information so they can sell me stuff.

edit: "because I can't" instead of "because can't"

bean469today at 5:28 AM

Can't wait for the JerryRigEverything video

philo23yesterday at 9:26 PM

I don't see the appeal of foldables personally but the way the screen animates during folding/unfolding is a very clever touch

tacodestroyertoday at 3:07 AM

As my wife would say, “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”.

fishtoasteryesterday at 6:26 PM

The weight is interesting: 8.96 ounces (254 grams).

Not much more than the 18 pro max - 8.78 ounces (249 grams). The Duo sure looks chonky, but that's not the end of the world.

docdeekyesterday at 6:38 PM

How do you put a case on a foldable phone? Or do you not put one on, rely on the ceramic to protect the screen, and pay for Apple Care for cheap replacement screens?

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Wojtkieyesterday at 11:59 PM

$2000?! I know this is mostly sticker shock, but I wasn't expecting this price.

Looks like a cool device though.

kvnhnyesterday at 11:31 PM

PSA: Spoiler alert for the show Silo in some of the demo shots.

Product demos spoiling TV shows… What a time to be alive.

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smilbandityesterday at 10:15 PM

I saw it reported that it has a crease. personally I liked the surface duo better with it's 2 seperate screens.

nish__yesterday at 6:19 PM

Been using a galaxy fold for years now. This is the future.

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phreacktoday at 5:13 AM

I honestly don't believe the foldable tech is there. Most I've seen from Samsung, Motorola, etc. are so, so very fragile they don't last the year. I've been burnt and everyone I know has too, I wouldn't have a foldable ever again. I hope Apple figures out some magic hardware but I'm doubtful.

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didipyesterday at 6:19 PM

It looks very useful with all the software integrations. Now the price tag however... Without financing it would be hard for majority of buyers to justify.

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k__yesterday at 7:21 PM

Nice form factor.

I have a Samsung Fold 4. The front screen is too narrow and the folding screen doesn't open all the way anymore.

Not what I expected from a 1400€ phone.

tripdoutyesterday at 6:19 PM

It looks very wide in the unfolded configuration.

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green-saltyesterday at 6:34 PM

TouchID only is an interesting choice, very interested in the 2nd iteration after we see the crease and hinge wear after a few thousand actuations.

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jeyyesterday at 7:07 PM

Personally I love this concept. I’d be able to stop carrying my laptop around and just monitor/respond to things via SSH from my phone.

makeitdoubleyesterday at 6:21 PM

Are the on screen controls fixed to the right ?

The curved right side makes me think so, but it sound like a pain for people using their phone left hand dominantly.

happyopossumyesterday at 11:03 PM

let's see, next year i'll be due for a new iPad mini and iPhone pro max. $1300 for one, $600 for the other (or $750 if I want cellular, which I actually do), and suddenly this doesn't look out of reach... if only I could use a stylus with it!

digitaltreesyesterday at 8:25 PM

Why not make it have equal corners. This forced rounded edges is insane. The lack of symmetry is absolutely bad design

bentttoday at 4:09 AM

I like the idea, but I really want iPhone Nano.

kaikayyyesterday at 6:17 PM

So excited to see if the "apple adoption delay" holds true here. Like more durability and actual long term software support.

phplovesongtoday at 9:45 AM

Whats the use case? Is this a phone or a size-reduced ipad? This looks hard to keep in you pocket, and even worse to operate with one hand.

Im having a hard time to understand what and who this is for.

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