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karlosvomackayesterday at 9:19 PM6 repliesview on HN

For US readers - in my country in europe I'd say that 95% of people have only debit card, not credit card. it's very not common to have a credit card here. Card payments are extremely common, but everyone uses debit card.


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avianlyricyesterday at 9:31 PM

The EU caps all card interchange fees at 0.3% for credit cards and 0.2% for debit, which is an order of magnitude lower than some of the fees in the US.

That’s why you don’t see the same kinds of credit card deals in the EU compared to the US.

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danvayntoday at 4:49 AM

Yes, it’s because Americans have to build credit or otherwise optimize their credit score to finance large purchases. In most other countries there either isn’t a credit score concept or your credit score does not have to be built up over a long period to be effective like it does here. It doesn’t help that a third of Americans dont really have savings either; credit helps them to work around this

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gnfargbltoday at 8:20 AM

This is not a universal, however. In the UK, two-thirds of adults have a credit card.

LelouBiltoday at 7:13 AM

I don't know for other European countries, but in France a lot of people call them "Cartes de crédit" AKA Credit cards, even though, like you said, they are actually debit cards for 95% of people, so this adds to the confusion

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TacticalCodertoday at 10:11 AM

> For US readers - in my country in Europe I'd say that 95% of people have only debit card, not credit card. it's very not common to have a credit card here.

In the countries I've been to in the EU (Belgium, France, Spain, Luxembourg), when they give you cards they give you typically both a debit and a credit card. It's extremely common to have both. I've got debit cards, a pre-paid debit card (which I top up when I plan to spend) and credit cards.

And getting up to 2% cashback in the EU (even if the fees vendors can add in the EU are maximum 0.3) is not that hard.

It's very common to pay for mostly everything with a debit card and then use a credit card to, say, book a plane or vacations or to open a tab when you check-in at some hotel.

Heck, I don't even know if you can book a plane with a debit card!? (and anyway then you probably don't get the cancellation insurance etc. that you typically automatically get with a credit card).

klrefgtoday at 5:31 AM

How do any of they rent cars when they travel? I think that still requires a credit pretty much anywhere in Europe.

I’s bet the proportion is way higher than 5% even if the overwhelming majority use their credit cards the same was as debit.

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