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ErroneousBoshtoday at 12:02 AM2 repliesview on HN

But they still cannot drive cars. All this stuff can do is react very slowly, maybe, if it detects it, to a change in the environment.

Self-driving cars will never be safer than human drivers.

If you believe otherwise, show actual proof of some kind. Show some footage of self-driving cars doing anything other than blundering around like an inexperienced and impaired driver.


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madamelictoday at 12:55 AM

FSD avoiding a deer at night at highway speeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAmZBEK2Wk

FSD driving in decently heavy rain (this is mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKePEavEhv

Both of the above aren't current consumer models and the Cybercabs run one major version above this.

I've seen it avoid small rodents and deer that were hidden in foliage around a blind turn, it's super freaky with what it sees that humans can't and this is with only cameras. It is really good, in my experience, at reasoning about other vehicles and what they are about to do such as seeing a vehicle not slowing down quickly enough at a stop sign its crossing so it slows itself down to make sure the car stops. My favorite story is that it swerved out of the way of someone doing a u-turn from the opposing lane hidden behind another car; it had already gotten us out of the way before anyone in the car realized what had happened.

An AV is already superhuman because it never loses focus, it can see all the way around the car, and it can react quicker than any human, besides maybe an F1 driver, could.

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abepputoday at 12:23 AM

> Self-driving cars will never be safer than human drivers.

You're responding to something that actually brought data to the table to answer the question, though one can quibble with details.

Yet you're saying that self-driving cars will _never_ be safer, which is a much stronger claim, and you don't bring any evidence to back up the assertion.