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Training a 3.8B LLM to 0.384 CORE for $998

76 pointsby Anon84today at 2:04 AM13 commentsview on HN

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brainlesstoday at 4:59 AM

More and more such experiments. I felt sad for a couple months when I realized that writing code will not be the same since. Now I am on the other side.

LLMs are interesting in their own ways but as an engineer, this is a way to unlock a new way of building software.

I recently build a Claude-assisted Excel/CSV parser for a US based property management system (tax compliance). Uses Haiku and has a lot of deterministic code to extract column/row combinations to check known formats and finally handing out the headers to Haiku to give us a translation plan to our support columns.

These would eventually become part of the software, in a tiny LLM. The gap between training (such tiny LLMs) and inference will shrink. We can consult Claude for edge cases, create sample dataset and train a the tiny LLM on demand so we go to Claude less.

The tooling that a project needs is really important. Something I have been feeling as well. Not just in LLM building projects, but regular software projects that are LLM generated.

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rao-vtoday at 7:08 AM

This is really neat! I'd be tempted to try this again targetting ~1B params and the entire cookbook of "current" small model ideas: gated delta nets (or is ~2K context too short to benefit?), per layer or n-gram embeddings, gated residuals etc.

pulse7today at 8:34 AM

I hope we will soon have an open-source project for training such small LLMs where one can just pick the architecture (like Qwen / DeepSeek / etc.), parameter count, dataset, ... and then let it run on a local/rented GPUs...

johnnylambadatoday at 4:13 AM

I don’t blame you for using an LLM to write an article about an LLM that you built. I’ve been reading so much LLM output that now I see it everywhere. I wonder if humans will start writing more like LLMs?

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vatsachaktoday at 3:29 AM

Very cool. I wonder what's the minimum amount of money you'd need to get it to score well on AIME

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