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gpt5today at 8:21 AM8 repliesview on HN

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markasoftwaretoday at 8:31 AM

Or maybe, the "hacker" philosophy that this site is named after, is strongly opposed to the philosophies that the American labs seem to be operating on?

anyways, remember HN rules: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and we'll look at the data."

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kouteiheikatoday at 8:33 AM

> posts on American models are steered towards controversy and anti-AI sentiment, posts on Chinese models are full of blatant flattery

So why, for example, are posts on the Inkling[1] release (an American model) thread mostly positive? It's as if there's something else at play here, but I can't quite put my finger on it, hmm... :P

[1] -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48924912

kcocoatoday at 8:30 AM

Not Chinese/American models. We are talking about open-weight (and their detailed tech report) and close-weight (with non-sense restrictions)

imjonsetoday at 8:57 AM

Google's Gemma models are usually celebrated, so were the llamas. If Meta releases Muse Spark it will also be a good thing. If Anthropic released a great open weight model I am sure that post won't be steered towards controversy and anti-AI sentiment.

It so happens Chinese companies are more friendly towards open weights, autonomy and freedom that most US based ones. Who would have guessed?

rao-vtoday at 8:28 AM

umm what are you talking about? Basically this crowd (esp. folks like me who run medium models locally) like open stuff and can be a tiny bit unenthused about opaque mysteries handed down from on high. You'll see people delighted with Gemma releases and heck even IBM's Granite models (boring architecturally though they may be) every time they come out. Heck I was chuffed about gpt-oss-120b for weeks. @sama give us another already!

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taylorfinleytoday at 8:37 AM

This doesn't require an influence operation.

American models are closed, expensive, neutered, and make Dario and Sam even more rich and powerful.

Chinese models are open-weight, cheap, neutered only about things like Tiananmen Square and the treatment of Uyghurs, and scare Sam and Dario.

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dakollitoday at 8:38 AM

This post doesn't even allege this...

Weird of you to turn technical discussions into weird nationalistic debates. Maybe lay off the X algo, I think elon has oneshot your brain. .

well_ackshuallytoday at 8:37 AM

Your source: vibes

Deepseek's source: mostly open

i wonder if there's any relationship hmmmm