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sirwhinesalottoday at 11:17 AM2 repliesview on HN

I'm not really concerned with the philosophical debate of what conscience is.

Is a simulation of a car, the same thing as an actual car? Most people will probably say no, some might say "it depends on the accuracy". I say who the hell cares?

I care about the human experience because I am human, and therefore I care about things that affect humans, because they affect me. I have empathy, so I can extend that consideration to non-human beings that experience *similar biological processes*.

I know what pain feels like, and I don't like it, so I'd rather this other thing not feel it either, because that makes me feel bad.

I do not care about a pile of tensor multiplications, at all. If it is conscious, great, maybe it can finally follow instructions properly, which is its only purpose.


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Certhastoday at 12:59 PM

Your car analogy is very, very confused. If a simulation of a car can get you from A to B, requires the same steering, fuel and servicing, gives you the same tactile feedback, is it a car?

Of course "I care about humans because I am human" is a self-consistent position to take. But now you need to decide if you want to consider a full simulation that faithfully reproduces everything that physically happens between our ears as human. After all I might very well implement this simulation using a bunch of tensor multiplications in an autoregressive setup...

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coliveiratoday at 2:09 PM

Some people are interested in making sure these simulations have the same status of humans, and some others want to make gods of them. That's the problem.