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jrfloyesterday at 1:26 PM8 repliesview on HN

I pay for the Pro ChatGPT plan, and if you go to settings > data controls this is the first setting:

> Improve the model for everyone

> Allow your content to be used to train our models, which makes ChatGPT better for you and everyone who uses it. We take steps to protect your privacy. Learn more.

It's on by default. We can debate whether or not it should be opt in or opt out, but no one should be surprised by this.


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ColinWrightyesterday at 1:41 PM

I refer you to this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49643556

Quoting:

> "I've reset this more than once and the last time I made a careful note of when I did it and to my surprise I found it re-enabled when I checked just now."

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nmfisheryesterday at 1:36 PM

There's a difference between "this is allowed under their ToS" and "it is academically unethical to fail to credit the people whose specific conversations were fed into a model that was used to solve a problem".

I don't think these people would be so miffed if they had been properly credited - that's how academia works (at least, that's my understanding of it).

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omnicognateyesterday at 1:28 PM

Not unticking a box in settings doesn't constitute consent in my opinion. I'd never put anything I value into ChatGPT anyway, though.

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spindump8930yesterday at 1:38 PM

"Improve the model for everyone" can be implemented in so many ambiguous ways.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49643513

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SoftTalkeryesterday at 3:59 PM

I believe it can be "off by default" depending on terms negotiated between the enterprise customer and ChatGPT.

We have ChatGPT at work and it explicitly says that "workspace data isn't used to train models"

tyraboundyesterday at 2:56 PM

> We take steps to protect your privacy

No mention what those “steps” are, success criteria, or whether they are successful by any navies at all … they take steps though… so it’s fine, and if we know one thing it’s that we can really truly trust someone off the likes of Sam Altman.

fithisuxyesterday at 1:50 PM

Ok, you shut it down, or that is what they make you believe. You give the instruction to shut down, you can't know if it has been applied.

mannanjyesterday at 3:40 PM

Yes but what about “analytical purposes” what does that cover and can you turn it off? I have found out you cannot. It’s the Trojan backdoor to your data.