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magicalistyesterday at 8:51 PM3 repliesview on HN

> It's not obvious to me that's an unethical thing to do

In terms of work in mathematics, something I personally would not do based on ethical grounds would be to hear a rumor that some researchers are taking a certain approach and may be nearing a solution, use a model that was possibly contaminated with intimate knowledge about that approach (though later they investigated and think it wasn't), and then commit millions to tens of millions of dollars and untold amounts of hardware to try to beat them to it. If I had done this, I also wouldn't have pestered the researchers on a Sunday night to meet immediately so we could negotiate a nice way of presenting the actions I had decided to take.

Even if you don't think it was unethical, it was never going to be received well in the community that was especially going to care about this work, and who are very much peers to many of the people working on this solution, so it was at the least an enormous (and well-deserved) own-goal that their unveiling of their solution to NS went like this.


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keedayesterday at 11:53 PM

But by OpenAI's telling they heard a rumor that the problem had already been solved. So they reached out to the other researchers as an attempt to share the credit, and in fact have at least one of them be the lead author (which is when they found out the AI had solved a broader problem than the researchers.) Seems pretty ethically palatable.

I suspect the main reason the community is not receiving it well is largely the same reason many developers are not receiving coding agents well.

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cgiotoday at 7:40 AM

Hearing that something is solvable is already a hint. I don’t think leveraging this knowledge is ethical. They could go after a different problem but didn’t.

dwaltripyesterday at 8:57 PM

I heard they also tried to strong-arm them into removing the name of their collaborator who happened to work at a different company (Anthropic)...

I haven't looked into it myself, but if true, that seems incredibly scummy.

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