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Can confirm, I had never heard of Navier-Stokes before this fiasco. And while I suspect OpenAI decided it was worth the risk for the public display of capability, this proves they are now directly competing against their own customers.
How about the fact that it almost certainly did not happen?
I read today that OpenAI after investigation was able to categorically rule out that usage data from before beginning of July could have affected the system that was used.
Agreed. Companies don’t like trade secrets and proprietary information potentially being laundered to their competitors…
This. These platforms are asking to be trusted with unprecedented amounts of the public's data and, unprecedentedly itself, the public's reasoning and decision-making. It's an awesome responsibility that requires a singular approach that smaller platforms with less responsibility don't necessarily have to devote resources to. OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Facebook, they're the big dogs. They can't do the things the small guys can get away with. They're the 18-wheelers, and when you're an 18-wheeler, you HAVE to act differently. You stay in the middle lane, you do not speed, you always yield, because when you make a mistake, when you drive aggressively, you can kill dozens and blow up and interstate and stop traffic for hours, if not days. You don't get to do shit like this; the cost of everyone giving you their data is that you give up every opportunity to use it for your own interests, even though you technically have the capability to exploit it.
It already has. Inside just about every company on the planet are conversations this week revisiting the idea of giving these labs access to ANY data, further ramping up commentary on why don’t we just use open models on our own infra where we don’t have to “trust” anyone.
This PR stunt by OpenAI may go down in history as the thing that finally broke them for good.
The corporate espionage ring targeting Apple also isn't a good look. A company that does that is a company that will lie to you about harvesting internal materials from your company.