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monideasyesterday at 9:35 PM2 repliesview on HN

Just because these ideas are heterodox relative to prevailing norms which makes you uncomfortable, it doesn’t make them immoral ideas.

I wouldn’t say these statements even have moral judgments in them either way. For example, this doesn’t even ascribe moral weight to “freedom” or “democracy” just that they are at odds.

This is why these types of things are better left to elite minded people who are capable of these types of discussions. You’re just responding essentially to the valence of these terms.

“Democracy = good feeling, freedom = good feeling, how can good feeling != good feeling?” This is the level at which you’re engaging.


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esalmantoday at 1:47 AM

If these were mere ideas we wouldn't have a problem. On a given day anyone can come up with worse ideas.

What makes us separate from animals and thrive as a civilization is that majority of us do not act on our intrusive ideas without consequences.

Thiel is an exception because he is acting on thsea ideas, causing harm to real innocent people, without any regard for consequences.

anonymarsyesterday at 9:50 PM

> these types of things are better left to elite minded people who are capable of these types of discussions

In a world of eye-poppingly hot takes, I commend your ability to somehow raise the bar

Bonus points for dismissing things like "you can change the world without getting approval from other people" (you could hardly ask for a more substantive topic to debate in moral philosophy than one's freedom to affect other people) as mere valence-level "how can good feeling != good feeling" sophistry