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sho_hnyesterday at 10:15 PM4 repliesview on HN

> Because the core of the issue is that it may well not have solved it, but instead plagiarised the significant step of the result from other researchers

It's also true however that I haven't seen a single write up trying to discern what did more of the work in those AI chats - the prompts or the responses - bubble to the surface, also since we don't have access to them.

For example, if I prompt Codex with "Make me a website about strawberry cake" and nothing else, and OpenAI announces they have the best strawberry cake minutes before I launch, I'm not sure they plagiarized anything.

We just don't know if this is quibbling over "who prompted first" or if the researchers came up with anything strikingly original by themselves.


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20kyesterday at 10:22 PM

The researchers apparently spend a year or so working on this, and it builds off significant previous work, so it seems like it was a pretty significant amount of work that OpenAI may have trained on

I'd love to see an in depth analysis of how much OpenAI actually did, but I suspect we'll never see that because it would indicate at least some plagiarism which undermines a lot of what OpenAI is putting out in public

Hardwired8976yesterday at 10:41 PM

The conversation was about using the chat to check the draft, the novel ideas came from the researcher.

ImPostingOnHNyesterday at 11:11 PM

The truth is likely that without the tool or the humans using it, the process would have taken longer

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TZubiriyesterday at 11:08 PM

It's worth noting that the case is that your input is being used to train their AI, and that's more important than whether it materially contributed, it cannot be denied or attributed accurately, it cannot be said with certainty which way it happened, and that's what's important.