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Vegenoidtoday at 3:56 AM10 repliesview on HN

Spotify has progressively gotten much worse over the last 15 years, all while the size of their engineering team has ballooned.

I am very unsurprised by this outcome.

People wonder why good software becomes bad, and it’s because the people who were good at engineering are often outmaneuvered by corporate-politics savvy people in a growing company. One of the best political moves in a company is to have a lot of people under you.

A couple years ago, an engineer I know who has always been a very poor performer and lacks initiative, but is friendly and non-confrontational, was hired by GitHub. It would not have been hard for GitHub to find a much better engineer, but this person would be an easy person to keep under a manager on a team who wouldn’t leave or make waves. That can be more important to some managers than skills.


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vantasselltoday at 4:00 AM

>Spotify has progressively gotten much worse over the last 15 years, all while the size of their engineering team has ballooned.

Spotify or Shopify?

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leoedintoday at 6:31 AM

> One of the best political moves in a company is to have a lot of people under you.

This is why I’m sceptical of “AI will kill corporate jobs”. A big company has no profit sharing for successful departments. Everyone is trying to get budget to hire because it makes them feel important.

0xpgmtoday at 8:34 AM

Sometimes I wonder what the tech ecosystem would look like without the ZIRP era.

I look back over 15 years and with the exception of increased smart phone usage, everything else still looks mostly familiar. Maybe a bit more slick, but also slower and buggier despite having much better hardware.

There hasn't been a qualitative leap in software (as was in the 90s). Just larger SaaS companies. Without ZIRP would it have been any different?

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mentalgeartoday at 8:33 AM

I have the impression that for hiring this is fundamentally the most important aspect: Finding a prospect that is just skilled enough for the position without being a risk to the person who is hiring them.

Cthulhu_today at 8:21 AM

When it comes to number of engineers, always keep in mind that it costs more engineers to maintain (and understand) software than the initial development push.

darkvertextoday at 8:51 AM

15 years of extremely well paid engineers and yet we still cannot delete a track from Recently Listened. ಠ _ ಠ

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m10axtoday at 4:15 AM

The mythical man-month ;)

z3t4today at 6:39 AM

Any book recommendations, that is not satire, about navigating the political landscape?

Spotify had a good app when it came out, p2p and UDP custom networking...

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knoctetoday at 4:02 AM

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